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billyd3us
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 Posted - Nov 02 2009 : 19:00:46
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Hello all , I may have had these on here before, don't remember. There are 2 images on small pieces of what looks to be old paper. Sizes are 11x9 inches 7x10 Inches . No dots , not a print , smudges of black ink and grey . What do the single letters mean ? and the stamps ?
When seen with my eye loupe it looks like a screen image on paper. Who could the artist be ? Any information on anything please. I'm sorry but , Iam trying to find some real fine master paintings, so hard here in California .
Thank You , Billy
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old etchings 004.jpg
old etchings 006.jpg
old etchings 007.jpg
old etchings 009.jpg
old etchings 010.jpg
old etchings 011.jpg
old etchings 012.jpg
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billyd3us
Average Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 02 2009 : 21:55:26
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| Really , nobody knows if this is an etching,copper plate print, woodblock , etc.? I took closeup pictures , 18th.century 16-15-14 century ? need more pictures ? I'am not an expert , you are . I drink BEER every day , brain tired , just the way it is .
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thatcomedian
New Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 02 2009 : 23:27:54
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Originally posted by billyd3us
Really , nobody knows if this is an etching,copper plate print, woodblock , etc.? I took closeup pictures , 18th.century 16-15-14 century ? need more pictures ? I'am not an expert , you are . I drink BEER every day , brain tired , just the way it is .
The stamped symbol is a flor de lis. I don't know what the diagonal line above it means.
David
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saintluc
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France
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Martha Walden
Average Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 03 2009 : 02:17:14
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Hi Billy
It is most likely a print done mid century 50's to 70's. It is not an etching, nor a copper plate, nor a block print. It is probably an older lithographic printing technique where you would not see dots.
An etching is very recognizable in that you would have a margin beyond the image, and an impression that the plate made on the paper - neither is present on your print. Even if the margin was cut away, you could tell by looking closely at the strokes the artist made on the plate - they would be quite distinct. And if it was an aquatint then it would seem like a watercolor. If a mezzotint, then it would look fuzzy and diffuse...
And as to a block print, it would not have so much detail.
Hope this helps. And BTW I just moved to So Cal and there are terrific and plentiful artworks to be found here. I love it!! Stop looking for a master and find the wonderful regional artists that abound in this area.
Go to the library, check out some art books, pop a beer, and read about the various art techniques.
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billyd3us
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Posted - Nov 03 2009 : 20:39:04
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| Thanks everybody for your input, Thank You Saintluc for reminding me. Martha , maybe you can teach me a few things about art, I'm in Oceanside.
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dcolosio
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USA
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Posted - Nov 04 2009 : 09:21:45
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| Martha is awesome, as a member it is always a pleasure to read her very detailed, informative and non condescending reply's. :)
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billyd3us
Average Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 04 2009 : 10:26:43
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| Decolosio, yes you are correct, Martha is Awsome in the way she replies. If it wasn't for this site, I would not have sold as many items as I have on eBay, for that Im very Thankful to all who have helped me. Have a Great Day decolosio. Thanx, Billy
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billyd3us
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USA
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Posted - Nov 04 2009 : 10:30:49
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| Decolosio, yes you are correct, Martha is Awsome in the way she replies. If it wasn't for this site, I would not have sold as many items as I have on eBay, for that Im very Thankful to all who have helped me. Have a Great Day decolosio. Thanx, Billy
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Martha Walden
Average Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 08 2009 : 19:37:00
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Wow - thank you guys for the nice comments! Truly appreciated.
Martha
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Impasto
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 09 2009 : 15:49:42
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Martha is so right. But, as she said, sometimes an etching is trimmed down and the plate marks long gone. This is so often the case with the Old Master etchings (i.e. Rembrandt). To find a first printing of a Rembrandt etching with the full margins is truly a rarity (even a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th printing for that matter!). And, too, people should beware that plate marks are sometimes "faked".
I've got a photomechanical reproduction of an etching with a forced plate mark incorporated to mimic a real etching. Talk about confusing.
If you really study printmaking technique you can begin to tell what method was used just by glancing at the ink. Etchings are created with what could be described as a sharp pencil, with relatively narrow cuts that will typically be evenly inked. That doesn't describe the prints you have here at all, Billy. Your images look like copies of watercolor and ink drawings because there are shades of dark, gradients of color, and, importantly, the use of line is diverse (from the use of brush and wash to ink and pen)... none of this occurs with etching.
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billyd3us
Average Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 09 2009 : 19:00:30
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Thanks Impasto , I just ordered a book on printing techniques from back in the day . Hopefully that will help me further understand prints, etchings, lithos, etc. From your eyes , when do you think my copys were done ?
Thank You, Billy
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Help with old etchings or ?
