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billyd3us
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Posted - Nov 06 2009 :  18:52:47  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Hey all, I got this today for $1.00, it seems to be from 1829 from Germany see through map of a river with buildings etc. What would you call this .
Thank You, Billy



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Marina
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Canada
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Posted - Nov 07 2009 :  00:58:50  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I'll give it a shot.

Weissenau Abbey - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weissenau_Abbey

Der Rhein - runs through perhaps

Mainspitze Germany - Copy of an old map.

I don't speak German but this is what I see.

Warm Regards,
Marina
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wasbach
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Germany
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Posted - Nov 07 2009 :  04:33:40  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
This is a negative film of an offset print with repairings (you need it, to prepare a printing plate).
So it is the preliminary stage of a modern print of an old map. The text says (translated:) “Panorama of the Main (a river that flows into the Rhine) and its nearest environment - Frankfurt at the Main to Mai… - painted by F. W. Delkeskamp, and engraved by C. A. Helmsauer – original edition – Frankfurt at Main by Friedrich Wilmans 1829”.
Absolutly no value – unfortunately.
This film is from 1960 to 1980.
Regards
Wasbach

Edited by - wasbach on Nov 07 2009 04:37:18
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billyd3us
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Posted - Nov 07 2009 :  13:34:13  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Thank You Marina and Wasbach, oh well, I guess this will be going in the trash.
Thanx, Billy
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billyd3us
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USA
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Posted - Nov 07 2009 :  15:15:32  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Wasbach, can you show me where I can find this ? I went back today where I got it and the lady said her husband was in movies in Italy (not famous though) she is about 90 or so , she said its as old as the city it shows . Has she lost her mind ?
Thanx, Billy
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wasbach
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Germany
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Posted - Nov 08 2009 :  03:45:15  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
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Wasbach, can you show me where I can find this ?
What do you mean?
quote:
her husband was in movies in Italy
In Italy? The map is from Germany.
quote:
Has she lost her mind ?
No not, in my opinion. She's just deluding herself.
Regards
Wasbach

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billyd3us
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Posted - Nov 08 2009 :  11:38:56  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
wasbach , I know it's from Germany . Yes they Lived in Italy , a friend Gave this to the husband . Where can I find information about this , even though it has no value , I would still like to know .
wasbach , it has been a great pleasure reading all your post and replies , I greatly value your opinions.
Thank You , Billy
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wasbach
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Germany
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Posted - Nov 08 2009 :  12:29:18  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Ok:
your film is made for the printing of a facsimile of the map from 1829, printed by the "Archiv-Verlag" in Braunschweig, Germany, in the year 1984.
You find it here:
http://www.bookmaps.de/lib/ruc/p/a/pan_26.html
Even such a facsimile normally has a limited printrun (that has to be paid) and after the printing, the film (normally) is destroyed or thrown away. (In extremlely rare cases the film travels to the USofA and shows up at Findartinfo - at the end.)
Regards
Wasbach

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billyd3us
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Posted - Nov 08 2009 :  18:04:11  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Thanx, wasbach , that's all i needed .
Thank You, Billy
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billyd3us
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USA
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Posted - Nov 08 2009 :  20:45:42  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
nope, that website does not tell me anything, sorry this piece off **** film ended up here.
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wasbach
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Germany
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Posted - Nov 09 2009 :  02:48:01  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
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that website does not tell me anything
You can find the facsimile that is printed with your film there - if you look for it.
Regards
Wasbach
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Vietato
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Denmark
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Posted - Nov 09 2009 :  02:57:08  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Billy, the page Wasbach linked to is a book search!
And following the alphabetical order you'll find it when you reach "Panorama des M".

If you are interested in the technical aspects of printing with film your local library can probably help.

Regards,
Vietato

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