quote:Originally posted by jillh2001 This forum should not be used to berate others, are you listening LS Moron?
quote:I think folklore is a nice euphemism.
quote:Originally posted by bodoMaybe in the U.S. of A it is. But in Europe we call it folklore.
quote:Originally posted by jillh2001Can you please post the upper left ( just the three faces) in greater detail also the pitcher on the table ( a detail). I´m looking for the manner of painting in the faces and the type of porcelain on the table ( Kangi other?) Most likely the porcelain is going to tell you roughly when the piece was painted. What about that musical instrument? Is it a mandolin? guitar? other? You can also tell from the instrument what century this is likely to be. What I would start with are the figures, they don´t look right to me for the date you are seeking. It´s a rural painting ( that is most likely was done not in or near an urban center-where schools of art and artists would have shared manners and techniques like perspective, color, anatomy etc. I would say it is an untrained/ not formally trained artist. ( like our American folk art). The seal does look pretty good. You can find the motif for the center of the seal with research. Also the frame, can be easily changed but it a good beginning point and part of the overall history of the piece. I would definitely try to check the subjects manner of dress and go from there. Just because the gallery/vendor you bought it from is reputable doe/does not mean it is what they say it is. I had a clients painting the other day. They purchased it as an oil on board and its an oil on canvas on board and effects the value to a LARGE degree. The gallery is honest, according to the person at Christies I spoke to ´´they are very reputable´´ They just made a mistake. How does the back of this piece fit into the frame? What type of nails or adhesive do you have? Is the adhesive rabbit glue or something else. This will also give you info. Hope you didn´t pay too much because the value is usually in the piece not the age. Still it is quaint.